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Do they really hate Indian geeks

Workers who code software need a different visa than those who install software. “The Dutch government had a preconceived notion that our employees had gone to Amsterdam to do coding,” Padalkar said. “Coding requires a different work permit that takes nine to 18 months to procure.”

As usual I was reading the Wired newsletter early this morning and I found this article interesting. So, some people really hate Indian Geeks.

Today, in this connected world, there are still the conventional thoughts that persists in many people’s mind.

  1. I hit the preview button and lost my post. Since I'm too frustrated to write it again, here's the short version:

    If things suck, people find something or someone to blame. Since the economy blows and it seems that Indians are gaining from it, people naturally think they are the cause. I use naturally based on their ignorance. They do not use logical judgements when assigning blame and it's stupid.

    Another comment was about people having racism the world over. To me, that's bs. I was racist against anyone not me when I was unemployed last year. Granted, it was a friendly competition thing. If you were not me, you were my enemy because I needed and wanted that job more than you. Now that I'm employed, you bet I'll be you friend, but I sure probably didn't appear to be your friend when I was competeting for jobs. It's all about perception.

    Another thing that is retarded is people thinking that all this tech stuff getting outsourced to India will screw jobs over. There have been many successful endeavors (Microsoft making Windows Server 2003 over there), and a ton of failures too. My company appears 50/50. The point is, those business decisions are all neither good nor bad. Some add jobs, others take away. There is a balance. I think racism based on your lack of unemployment is an emotional lashing out, looking for someone to blame your problems on. Take responsibily and shut up.

    ...course, I'm employed so I could be a tad subjective.

  2. I hit the preview button and lost my post. Since I'm too frustrated to write it again, here's the short version:

    If things suck, people find something or someone to blame. Since the economy blows and it seems that Indians are gaining from it, people naturally think they are the cause. I use naturally based on their ignorance. They do not use logical judgements when assigning blame and it's stupid.

    Another comment was about people having racism the world over. To me, that's bs. I was racist against anyone not me when I was unemployed last year. Granted, it was a friendly competition thing. If you were not me, you were my enemy because I needed and wanted that job more than you. Now that I'm employed, you bet I'll be you friend, but I sure probably didn't appear to be your friend when I was competeting for jobs. It's all about perception.

    Another thing that is retarded is people thinking that all this tech stuff getting outsourced to India will screw jobs over. There have been many successful endeavors (Microsoft making Windows Server 2003 over there), and a ton of failures too. My company appears 50/50. The point is, those business decisions are all neither good nor bad. Some add jobs, others take away. There is a balance. I think racism based on your lack of unemployment is an emotional lashing out, looking for someone to blame your problems on. Take responsibily and shut up.

    ...course, I'm employed so I could be a tad subjective.

  3. I have a friend who was very close to two of the incidents mentioned here. He works with i-flex and was in Malaysia when the incident happened.

    The i-flex incident was a case of visa-violations where customer could not wait to wait till work visas were processed before the consultants could begin the on-site project. If you have worked with consultancies yolu'll realise that this happens a lot, unfortunately visas have not evolved enough to accomodate for the changing work culture...

    The Malaysian incident was a regular case of extortion that the Malaysian Police regularly does to get some money out of cheap manual laborers that come from countries like India and Bangladesh. They were unfortunate that all the people rounded up were IT professionals with valid visas. According to my friend, the police officials were eventually suspended...

    So is it a case of prejudice? Depends upon how you want to look at it...

    Cheers

  4. I have a friend who was very close to two of the incidents mentioned here. He works with i-flex and was in Malaysia when the incident happened.

    The i-flex incident was a case of visa-violations where customer could not wait to wait till work visas were processed before the consultants could begin the on-site project. If you have worked with consultancies yolu'll realise that this happens a lot, unfortunately visas have not evolved enough to accomodate for the changing work culture...

    The Malaysian incident was a regular case of extortion that the Malaysian Police regularly does to get some money out of cheap manual laborers that come from countries like India and Bangladesh. They were unfortunate that all the people rounded up were IT professionals with valid visas. According to my friend, the police officials were eventually suspended...

    So is it a case of prejudice? Depends upon how you want to look at it...

    Cheers

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